OES c/o Sinope C.P. 12 - 14023 - Cocconato (AT) - Italy
Gordon Taylor of infectious unease
7th July 1999
did you first become involved with music?
started in music with Ordo Equitum Solis. OES was created
in 1989 and we released our first cd in December 90 which
was "Solstitii Temporis Sensus". Before that
we were passionate listeners and much in underground and
alternative clubs around Europe.
have interesting backgrounds could you tell the readers
out there what your backgrounds have been?
don't have that incredible background! Before our first
cd, we had (Leithana) the opportunity to collaborate with
Tony Wakeford from Sol Invictus. After that he collaborated
with us also. Our background might be interesting and
full of funny stories, but it would be too long to tell
them all now!
do you all do when are not working in the band?
Music is our main occupation. When
we don't play we look after the graphic parts of the cds,
the contacts, promotion and so on. There's always a lot
to do, time is never enough. We spend our free time reading,
listening to music or with the few but good friends left:
then we let ourselves go into any sort of vice and pleasure,
if our bodies are in the right mood for it.
is the meaning behind the bands name?
name OES was born from personal experiences. In 1989 we
decided to realize something real, we felt the need to
express our thoughts, hopes and despair through the music.
We decided to "escape" from society and we went
to live in a small mountain village on the Alps, in Italy
near to the French border. The village had 17 inhabitants,
including us. Most of our food was selfproduced and we
warmed ourselves exclusively with wood. The place was
called Paganotti (which means Little Pagans). Tony Wakeford
came several times to visit us there, and we started a
short but intense collaboration together. In that time
and place was born a friendship that is still alive and
strong. Ordo Equitum Solis (Order if the Knights of the
Sun) is the description of our researchs and way of living:
days full of mystical studies, readings, fields work alternated
with days of orgiastic feasts dedicated to Bacchus...
Order and Chaos.
instruments and equipment do you all use and are there
any particular instrument you enjoy the most?
tend to use anything that produces a sound wave. 10 years
ago there was much more space into the sound research,
specially noises, and at that time we was much into it.
Technology had somehow influenced music, and we became
aware of the possibilities it could offer. But we never
left our acoustic instruments. We like to have instruments,
and whenever we can we buy new ones.
I love wooden handmade instruments, acoustic guitars,
luths and harps, and I find fascinating the combination
of these with electronics.
my favourite instrument: my hands. I'm not attached to
any particular timber. Of course I love keyboards but
I could do with any other instrument, as long as there's
a sound coming out from it.
creative process do you go through when composing your
Music is the way that makes me feel
at ease in this body, in this life. It's difficult to
explain what happens when I create a track, maybe I manage
to escape reality for a moment. All I can say is that
I try to be as much as possible myself, and the more time
goes by the more I realise that music is the only way
I'm able to communicate through.
inspires you when you write your music?
life's banality, the anguishes and the rage we've got
inside, the Love for Nature, the awareness that any day
has a sunrise and that each of these sunrises has its
of your songs tell a story or a set of themes, they seem
to be inspired by mythology and history how do you go
about writing lyric, and what subject matter do you enjoy
I like to write about my own sensations
and points of view. There's always a theme in our albums,
and somehow each song tells about a different sight of
the same matter. It's true we're much into mythology.
I think it's high poetry. To me mythologic stories represent
the trials of man: love, war, life, death, brightness
and action. I think they dignify Man. I like agressivity
but hate vulgarity, and what leads me when I write is
the weight of the words. I use precious words in rare
occasions. What I like the most is to tell between the
lines by several levels. But I don't know how many persons
you influence by books or movies or plays.
I love reading, and the more I read the more I love it.
I don't watch television and hardly go to the cinema,
but I love deeply and mystically the few films that I
"Influence" is not the
right word, I prefer to say "what deeply shaked me".
My movie is "2001, space odysey", my book is
Homerus' Odyssey. As you see the word odyssey is in both
titles. I prefer tragedies to comedies, probably because
life is such a comedy that I cannot stand wasting my free
time with another sarcastic laugh. I think tragedies represent
a very high form of beauty. They feed my dreams. While
my body enjoys life with a laugh!
are some of your favorite authors?
I don't like to answer to questions about musical or books
taste. Maybe because in the past it happened that I read
interviews and I was desappointed about the answers. I
know that it was a stupid and childish reaction, but it
chocked me and everytime it stops me. There are many authors
I apreciate. I'll just quote what I read in the last 20
days: Goethe, Defoe, Hesse, Dumas, simple novels that
touched me, some in a good way and some in a bad one.
Anyway I think any book has a certain interest, in any
book there's something to learn or to think about. I like
also esoteric readings...
you influence by any other bands and do you have any favorite
bands that you like listening to?
we're influenced by other bands, it's impossible to not
be. Listenings are the growth of a musician; then of course
these listenings need to be distillated and regenerated
into something new and personal. We apreciate many bands
from Sol Invictus to Death in June, Current 93, Swans
and all the experimental/industrial music, then also artists
like Kate Bush, Bowie, and bands like Radiohead. There
are also good bands in the gothic scene that allow the
survival of the movement, despite of the years and of
the hostility of the media.
you doing any side projects?
we're not doing side projects at the moment. OES takes
all our time. Maybe in the future we might produce other
artists and write songs for others: this is the kind of
side-project we're interested in. Time will say if these
projects will come true, but we think they will, if we
don't die before of course... (Monks say: "remenber,
brother, that you have to die")...
the readers who may have not heard much of your music
how would you describe your sound?
difficult to describe its own music. We'd like to say
that we make music we like for first. We know it would
seem really pretentious to say "Oh, it's beautiful"!
But to be honest we believe it, we really love our music,
other while we wouldn't do it. Of course we don't pretend
to be the best, and we don't pretend that the others must
like it too! We don't feel offended if someone says "it's
crap" because for us it's not. Tastes are subjective
things. We think that our cds are quite different one
from the other, and those who expect to listen to a record
identical to the previous one will be surely desappointed.
The music we do reflects our way on this life, so it's
full of different landscapes. Music is the tool that gives
us the possibility to evolve into the Matter and through
Albums have you produced and have you been on any compilations?
would you describe your fans?
would describe them as persons who are looking for something
different from what media offers. Free persons that have
the conscience to have a brain and who look for their
own way despite of the fashions or established things.
We think our best fans are very sensitive persons, probably
romantic and misanthropic, and totaly unease in this society.
is the meaning behind the name Planetes?
name comes from the ancient greek "astris planetes"
which means "stars that wander". That's how
they described the movement of the planets in the sky.
Then the name was shorten and became "planetes",
we still call them like that. But Planetes for first meant
"wandering". We chose that name because we spent
the last few years wandering around aimlessly. We felt
somehow as planets that follow the force of gravity, we
felt we had to get lost into the space. We don't know
why we did it, even if there must have been a reason why.
has the response been with the latest album Planetes?
was very good, especially considering that more than 4
years had gone by from the previous cd. In our last tour
there were young listeners that thought that we was a
was the inspiration behind the latest album planetes?
we told before, the inspiration was above all the wandering
and the travel. The movement. It's very strange, because
we went through one of the worse moments of our lives,
but the songs reflect a great serenity. That album took
a while to be released, so we had a lot of time to listen
to it and to make the arrangements. Maybe the inspiration
was also the opposition of love and hate: when you hate
what you love, you've got to go though a sort of renouncement...
then after a while the clouds leave and you can hope for
the Sun to shine again, and only in that moment you realise
the importance of a single sunbeam... it's very hard to
was the inspiration behind such songs like "through
the fog" "Furthermost" "A Stranger"
they are all personal feelings, it's related directly
to what i think and feel and want to say and shout. For
example "Through the fog": it tells about the
impossibility or difficulty to communicate and to be understood;
when you can't help building a wall with the outer world
but at the same time want to communicate: I guess it's
just loneliness. In "Furthermost" I feel strugled
by hate and rage. A Stranger: I'd like to quote a passage
of Goethe's Werther : "yes, sure, I'm a wanderer,
a pilgrim around the Earth. But are you something better?".
How: a reflection about my own mistakes.
it take to produce?
production is always very expensive, mostly because of
the recording studio. Planetes was the album we've worked
the most on, we prepared it for a couple of years, and
then recorded and mixed it in about 20 days. We recorded
Sostitii Temporis Sensus (our first album) in only 5 days!
It's obvious that we always arrive in studio perfectly
have you got planned for the next album? Will it be similar
to other albums?
don't think it'll be similar. Most of the songs already
exist, but we don't want to say about their sound... but
we can say that we're very enthousiastics about it already.
We think it will be a very powerful album.
have you toured, are you planning any up and coming tours?
just back from a tour in Germany, Holland and Slovakia.
We personally think it was the best tour we ever did,
we really enjoyed it. We don't know when our next tour
will be. We guess it'll be around May next year. In the
meanwhile we'll do concerts here and there. For example
we'll do an acoustic concert (only acoustic instruments
and no amplification) next month in Germany, then in October
we'll make a "normal" date in Northen Italy.
After that we'll be quite busy with the recording of the
new album, and then we'll see.
country did enjoy touring in?
like touring anywhere, wherever there is some interest
for our music. We love the stage, we love playing, we
love the stress of the tours, and each concert seems to
be the first one, we feel many emotions. Any venue has
its own spirit, and any stage is interesting when people
are happy or curious to listen to the music. The same
for the countries, it's not wise to generalise.
gigs did you enjoy the most and what was the audience
think the response of the audience depends a lot on the
place and venue. There are places where people go to a
concert but behave as in a fashion show, and there are
places where people just want to listen to some music
and have fun. Of course we prefer the second kind of audience.
Anyway we always make our best and give the most we can
during concerts. If we played well and the sound was good,
we're happy. If the response was good, then there's no
word to describe our happiness.
gigs did you not enjoy?
example we didn't enjoy one date in our last tour because
of the audience, which was really ignorant and rude. For
the really first time we thought: we finish our show and
take our money. Another gig we didn't enjoy was a long
time ago when we was touring with another band: we started
the concert and after a while realised that everything
on stage was totally disconnected... we started improvising
an intro while plugging in things around. It's very funny
because after many years we had the opportunity to talk
to someone who saw that concert and he said to us "the
intro was so long.." !!!
there anything special incorporated within your performances?
that particular, in the past we used to carry objects
like huge fire places to burn the incense, candles and
so on. Now we only put our flag on the back of the stage.
We prefer to be more essentials, we go deeper in the interpretation
of the songs. We don't want to catch the attention of
the audience because of the things happening on stage
but because of the music, exclusively the music and the
interpretation. Of course it's much more difficult for
us to be "nude" like this, it's much more work,
but it's very excinting to seduce the audience and to,
somehow, make love with it.
you have a performance what goes through your mind when
you are on that stage. What is it that you feel. What
sort of emotions do you go through when the eyes of the
audience are on you?
before I go on stage I'm totally
nervous, I always feel this sort of fear like the first
time. I'm unbearable, and the more I'm restless the more
i feel anguished by various technical problems. Then when
I go on stage I feel at home, I feel as just born, and
when I listen that I play well I have the best sensation
one can have. To cross the audience eyes gives me an emotion
of inebriating complicity, a sort of extasy. But when
I play not good I feel like a mess....
it's hard to say because I think
of many things at the same time: I listen if the sound
is ok and if the song preceeds well and at the same time
I control the distance between my mouth and the microfone,
while I search in my mind for the words of the lyrics
and play the notes of the keyboard, then maybe I've got
time to look at the audience and see if they're listening,
maybe I cross the eyes of a girl that looks at me in a
strange way, I feel touched and look somewhere else, so
i have a look if the sound engineer is behind his mixer
or if he's gone to the bar to have a drink, then suddenly
I feel thirsty... and it goes on like that. At the end
of the concert I'm tired to death. This is the activity
of the body, but during all the concert my soul is for
you produced any music videos or films?
we've produced a video "OES in Russia". It's
a live show we did for the Russian television. Actually
it's not available, but we'll release it again next year
probably. We've never produced music for films even if
we'd love to. What we're not much into are video-clips:
we think that somehow they are the death of music, because
they create a not-removable link between the music and
the image, and there's no more room for personal fantasy.
We think music should be something that frees fantasy
and imagination; anybody listens to a song in a different
way, so there can't be an image that works for all listeners.
It's a shame to kill music that way.
are your future plans?
just released a mini-album called Signs. It contains six
songs. Signs is a collection of rare songs, most of the
songs are unreleased, the others tracks very fews had
the opportunuty to listen to them. We're very happy with
this cd, we think it's a good release and a pleasant listening.
Then next September we'll release a compilation of our
back catalogue. It'll be a double-cd containing some songs
extracted from all the cds before Planetes (our back catalogue
is not available anymore, or at least not available in
an official version). This compilation will be interesting
for all those who have never heard to our previous albums.
Then after this in February 2000 we'll release our new
album. Then hopefully a tour, and then we'll see...
there anything you would like to say to the readers?
omnes, ultima necat. [they all injure, the last one kills]
related to hours.